Posts by William Penwell

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Watchtower Lawyers -- How many?

by VM44 in

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friends

this has been brought up before, but i am going to ask it again....just how many lawyers does the watchtower have?

how many have they sent to law school?

and, why do they need so many lawyers?

William Penwell

I mentioned this on here before but this was one of the finale straws for me when I started to fade. Growing up we were told not to go and get higher education, so because of a lack of education I was stuck doing a menial crappy job. Then I heard about a friend of the family that was at bethel being put through law school. I recall making a comment to my ex about how the society says one thing but does another thing when it benefits them.

Oh and to add our contribution went toward paying to put this guy through law school.

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Happy @ Kingdom Hall

by Newly Enlightened in

http://youtu.be/nzm4l-bsegy.

William Penwell

I can't believe what I am seeing those good dubs dancing to Satans music. Fred Franz is rolling in his grave.

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Local needs talk

by hoser in

one of the elders was missing his service bag and suspected that one of the publishers stole it.

he was determined to root out who did it so he decided to give a local needs part on the ten commandments focusing on you must not steal.. he enlisted the help of a trusted ministerial servant and got him to stand at the back of the kingdom hall during the part.

he told the ms that he would read off the ten commandments and when he got to the one "you must not steal" he would pause longer than usual and see if anyone acted nervous or suspicious.

William Penwell

Right after months of this nonsense, my friend who was the "collector" called Bethel, showed the C.O. the physical contract and this brother began to pay $300 a month. Elder rip-off clown shortly went on a European Cruise with his wife (cost $13,000 PP) for thirty days around the Adriatic Sea, when questioned by my friend said "You only have a 40th anniversity once!" Relevance there? You see how corrupt the JW Elders can be when they do not want to pay back what they owe?

Yeah these types seem to have money to spend but not pay back their debts. What a loser. Remind me of a "worldly" person that did work for a good dub. After this dub couldn't pay back his debt he felt that "worldly" guy should just forgive and forget.

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Local needs talk

by hoser in

one of the elders was missing his service bag and suspected that one of the publishers stole it.

he was determined to root out who did it so he decided to give a local needs part on the ten commandments focusing on you must not steal.. he enlisted the help of a trusted ministerial servant and got him to stand at the back of the kingdom hall during the part.

he told the ms that he would read off the ten commandments and when he got to the one "you must not steal" he would pause longer than usual and see if anyone acted nervous or suspicious.

William Penwell

I think I heard that one years ago but that was good.

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When did you realize evolution was true?

by Coded Logic in

) which person/source first made you reconsider your position on creationism?.

) how long a period of time did it take to fully convince you?.

) what books and videos did you read and watch?.

William Penwell

With the mapping of the DNA I don't know how the WT can explain that we humans share over 95% DNA of a Chimpanzee.

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JW Children - We're normal, and have fun at conventions, etc.

by berrygerry in

was reading a poster's experience with custody, and the info in wts child custody packet.. children are prepped to present themselves as normal, with school friendships, hobbies, activities, etc.

and not to mention that their life-goal is to pioneer.. the school brochure (1983) contains this gem:.

"they [witness families] also travel several times each year to attend larger gatherings called circuit assemblies and district conventions.

William Penwell

All I remember growing up is that anything we would do would not come guilt free, unless it was something the WT approved. I recall my mom having a party for all the dub kids at our home to give us all something to do. The mistake my mom made was having it on Halloween night. Well as soon as this got back to the overseer, my mom got raked over the coals. Even though it wasn't a Halloween party, the overseer made it out as having one. Too this day I don't know why my mom stayed in the cult as long as she did.

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Are we going to see a mass awakening?

by kairos in

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friends

the internet is the archive for civilization.. watchtower cannot hide it's history.. are we seeing the beginning of a mass exodus out of her?.

William Penwell

As far as I see the numbers of the dubs are still growing, not as fast as they would like but there i still growth. I have been on this site for 13 years and the pedophile issue was just beginning to hit the fan then. It is going to take time before this scandal starts to effect the WT growth.

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Does everyone here know they are on record with JW's forever?

by runForever in

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friends

richard ashe a full-time special servant of the order of jehovah's witnesses testified in the lopez case that every single disfellowshipping and disassociation and other things have all been scanned in 2011 and are and will be on permanent record with jw's forever.

is this legal?

another completely ironic and warped thing is the disfellowshipping form is called the s77 form.

William Penwell

Funny...when I got visited last year in response to a letter of explanation I demanded of the elders, their parting admonishment was, "And don't go to any apostate websites" - which was a complete non sequitur from anything in our (mostly respectful) 15 minute conversation.

If any elder ever said that to me I would do the opposite of anything they say. Anytime anyone says the words don't, shouldn't, can't they are trying to control. I have had enough of this garbage. Like someone else said on here I could really care less of what they think about me.

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How to wake up and reverse the trance???

by J-DUBBED in

how do you wake up someone taken from us by these screwed up people?.

our son was hooked by a jw at the age of 25. within 3 months they were married and we never even new about it.

he is now 29 and has nothing to do with his family(except his sister the odd time, when he needs something) of any freinds.. we are lost and have been for four years.. .

William Penwell

Oh he had some contact with us.....Mostly my wife. He was giving her ultimatums "If we want to see him then we have to change/convert also".

My wife said "I don't think so".

This is practiced by an organization that claims to love their neighbours.

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What person/persons/group is behind the rebranding of Jehovahs Witnesses

by truthseeker in

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friends

with the jw rebranding program in full swing, who do you think is behind all this?

i'm not certain the governing body came up with these ideas.

at least not the old guard which died off around 2009.. given the fairly recent articles in the kingdom ministry and watchtower about the dangers of the internet and having the latest gadget, this rebranding effort can't have been in the works for much more than three years.. the makeover is slick...very slick...and very clever.

William Penwell

They sold out. I'd love to observe the reaction of Fred Franz if he rose from the grave and observed the current state of JWdom.

I can still hear his piercing voice saying how the religious harlot, Babylon The Great prostituted herself to the wild beast. What would he think of the new branding? I am pretty sure it wouldn't be happening if he was still alive.